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Tuesday, November 13, 2007
Live Blogging from Columbia Panel on Changing Media Landscape
NEW YORK CITY -- Recognition of guests. Audio slideshows. New Media program combining different skill sets. slideshows and a lot of video. Foreclosures on Google Maps.
newmedianewsroom2007c.blogspot.com.
Hard to teach new media, it changes every day.
Text questions.
Josh Cohen -- business product manager for Google News.
Trying to organize the world's news organization. Every language, every story and every media outlet. More perspectives are better. make them available to readers. Not that difeernt from web search. Trying to organize it in a oherent. Click through and go off and go deeper. Cluster stories around storeies, instead of sources.
Organized around the story, top story with close to 1000 stories on it. Voices from other English language from around the globe. As many views as possible.
What do I see in chang ing media landscape. Sepaaration between creating and the distribution of content. from user perspective, get that content from a number of different places and different way.
Derakhshan.
Born and raised in Iran, left for Canda. Sept. 2001 started Persian Blog. BStarted it in Persian but realized if not in enligs doesn't exist.
Former journalist in Iran, writing about digital culture and Internet. Blog is filtered by Iranian governemtn. Kicked out by hosting company because someone didn't like what I wrote about them. He could afford a lawyer and the hosting company has kikeced me out. Filed a defamation against me for $2 million. Sad. This lawsuit could lead me into censoring myself, if I can't win it, I don't know how my life will be afterwards.
Issues about blogs, journalism. coverage of nuclear program. Subtle propaganda going on even in the most liberal publications. The whole web 2.0 is changing jouranlism in a way that is threatening the impartiality and democratic nature of the Internet. Web. 2.0 is created a tyranny of the popular. Affective in influencing news -- like the most popular stories.
Jonathan Dube -- Cyberjournalist.net and head of CBC online news section.
One of the key things that I'm thinking about is how web 2.0 and social media fits in with what we do as journalists. How can we leverage that and deal with it, not run fleeing from it.
A lot of what gets talked about is UGC and citizen journalism. I don't think anyone thinks that citizen journalism is going to be changing. Not the content creation end of social media. Somehting that goes to our role as content creators and distributors. The key trust network for people.
People using networking, most popular lists and etc. to filter through all of the information that is out -- a function that was done by journalists. More value to the audience than just the widsome of the crowd. What is most poupjlar is the most popular features.
Facebook. Not so much to chitchat with people, but more to keep track of interesting things that are out there, and may not have had the time to read. The wisdome of the crowds and hte social impact of network. Get information that is much more relevant to my lives than the front of the NYTImes or the CBC website. These new tools are going to shape teh way people get their information on time.
MacLoo.com
Mindy McAdams
Blog. I started a blog when I came back from a Fullbright in Malaysia. Started a blog to post news an pictures. Got in the habit. After a semester of teaching students and requiring them to write blogs. It's about what I do. I teach students how to be journalist. What I wonder, what am I training them for. I'm training them to be journalists, but surely for my lifetime and for theirs too. What am i training them for. Call to the amateur stick that he is selling everywhere. Whathe is saying people have to be paid for what they do. People who are showing us what is going on in Burma after all the journalists have gone. The BBC guy has gone back to Bankcok. The Burmese are using cell phones and are telling stories and going to great risks to smuggle it out. My students down in Florida, maybe that's not them. Butit's the world that they will be in.
I learn a lot of new tools every year. Every class every year. Four times every year. That is what you have to do, the technology keep chaning. Two or three years ago, not that much online video. Didn't seem to be the point, how to shoot video. Training print journalists, print students hwo to shot video. If they don't know, how will they have a job.
Stay up to date to know what to teach next year.
Andrew Lih just finished a book about Wikipedia.
Had to take off from teaching new media journalism. Rewriting curricula right in the midel e of the semester. in 1994, if you can imagine 1994, this building not as modern as now. DOS windows. Working with Zyrite.
Sittingin the office with Steve Isacs. Talked about three things. New Media was going to fill the knowledge gap -- too new to be in the history books, but too old to be rehashed every day. For me Watergate and Vietnam war, the stories that came out, I couldn't make sense of. Looking up Vietnam War and couldnt find out anything. Hoped the Internet could have the memory hole filled. Filled this knowledge gap, Moving summary of history updated every day.
Credibility of sources, balance in articles. What do they do to research different articles.
The ohter thing that we alked aobut is the daily me newspaper. He atlakead about the cutomizable newspaepr. Fear was that we would read our personal newspaper. Everybody woulhave their narrow cast view of th eowlrd. Web 2.0 revolution. Newspaper and boradcast media, envofrece a common experience for folks.
People are going to gdigg, reddit, facebook. form common bodies of new. Trust networks with friend, fear of the aily me newspaper puttin blinders on peole is not that a problame. Finally, the other myth that came about the dotocm revolution would kill the other fomrs of media. I find that I now listen to more raido. 10 podcasts a day, six weekly. Get more of my news from auio programming than text on teh web. Itunes, 15 podcasts on a single day. Strange on a single day, gcan't reveie this stuff, but I'm ggeting ot ove rht eInternet.
Echo mindy sentiments about citizen jouranlism asia. A counter to a not-so-open-media in those countries.
Michael Rogers, NYTimes futurist.
I'm sort of afuturist with a long past. Got involved in new medi in the 1980s, did the scenario for Ball Blazer, an online game. wrote the story for Ball Blazer. Wrote the technology column for Newsweek. Developed new media products. Still call it new. Permanent non-retirement. Laser disk plus hypercard. Five separate boxes. CD Roms, Compuserve, Prodigy, a half a dozen website. Liked building things, rather than running things. Practical futurist. Couldn't think of another name. Next day, as a futurist, call yourself one. Worked for a number of different media organizations. Futurist in residence on a NYTimes. R&D unit where I work. I work on the 28th floor with about 12 engineers. Our mandate is to look 18 months to 24 months ahead. About, NYTIMEs look beyond that, so that business plans can be made in a larger context. Build things that are too complicated. MObile platforms, sophisticated analytics. Those will be used across the compnay. Build prototypes. As a futurist I put that in context.
I create a context for these. New Media since 1986. 2007 will be seen as a turning point when big media started to rather quickly absorb what is going on in new media. Major reorgs at Time and Newsweek. The ins and outs a lot of power has shifted over to the digital side of the house. NYtimes has blogs and comments. USAToday commenting and digg like approval ont eh home page. Minnesota Public Radio public.
Databases, CNN, MSNBC user generated video. Citizen journalism. Visiting newspaper in flrodaia that has a site that they then print on paper. Hand out for free one a week. All of these things are rpaid uptakes in the major nedia.
The good news. the bad. for all the media and content orgs that I have dealth with. When youfirst, newspaper, magazine, photo archive, pornographer. About 1/10th per customer what you did in your old business.
2000 downloads of Desparate housewiefe. Facing this issue. we are going to be alble to cross this chasm. this 10-1 disjuncture. Thinking the next 10 years about how journalism is supported.
What does the NYTimes website look like in the future. Many NYTimes website. One fo realities, whatever you did 10 to 15 years ago, those days are gone. Wonderful days, but they are gone. the future, we are going to have lots of big engines and little engines. One foor mobile, living room, web browser. Post browser publishing. Get rid of that damn browser. MSFT reader. Adobe solution.
Post browser publication
Sree -- NYTimes active on facebook. Quiz and most-e-mailed. Forced the enginners to read the papers.
Josh on Google News.
With Africa, number of different edition. Wehave 19 different language, and 40 different editions. In Switzland, german and frnech editon. We want to be in as many languages as there are. Compnay wide 40 langugage, covering about 99 percent of the population. Somehting that we are working towars. US edition. English language.
We are a news aggregator, There is ranking that goes into there. IT is work that is never done. Never satisfied.
Africa. Type in and get Sports stries.
Demo using Google to show, came up with spors scores. From a futres perspective. the pursit of perfection can slow you down. Iterate them. We are not going to wait for perfoect. that is an elusive goal.
News archive search. Ghandi before 1930.
Josh -- crawl the content, take feeds in from them. NYTimes has opened up so much of their archirval content. NYTimes goes back to 1920s. We have other publsier that go back 150 years to 200 years. search for a given story. Any sort of search pull up different clustered ates. Clustered dates of time. Big even in that search. A lot is free now Paid content. Show snipets..
Perfer the censorship tot he tyrrany of the poular?
Derakhshan. What is censorship. One that I think that I would approaach it. Sensorhip is controlling reality by creating different version s of it. There are many types of censorhip. Blunt clear filtering is ahppenign in a lot of countries. Started in Cuba, ran and all of tat. Even now Turkey, Pakista, UE for exzmple. Those coutnries are not supposed to be critixcezed that much. so, that is one way of censorhip.
Embeded jouranlistm during Iraqi war, creating different views of reality.
Corporate jouranlistm, we have to ignore some aspects of a story becasue we have to pitch this story, the advertisers, another type of censorship. Limiting to that blunt less sophisticated way is limiting us. For example, the corporate censorhip, someone I know from a well-known weekly magazine in the US was saying that she did somehting on the Iranian Americans who were arrested there. Iranians in arrested in Iraq. Wasn't accepted. Even if journalists want to be impartial there is another layer of power relations.
Subtle or latent propaganda, specifically teh Iranian nuclear news. BBC, Boston Globe, Iranian nationalization of iol in 1953, described in Mossadegh, calling him a dictator. Iran playing wiht fire, wanted to nationalize oild. 50 years later, Boston Globe, published a very similar article about Iran's nuclear program. very personal approach about Ahmedinizad as a dicator.
One of the words that is used is nuclear ambitions. Since when has ambition entered the language of politics when you wnat to be specific. This is the way it works. The picture of the Iranian presiedne as a trheate. Denies the holocaust and want to destroy Israel. Ambitions create a link with that. Never use ambitions about Indian or Brazilian nuclear program. Another specific point, at the end, two paragraphs, the US is accusing Iran of producing nculear weapons and in another paragraph, Iran is denying that.
UN Atomic Agency -- always mising a third party that is watching this, says there is no evidence. No see in any story.
Cohen. Digg censorship.
Derakhshan -- Opinion of a news story that reflects. ever have room in front page of any website. The prevous generation of web applications not dominated by people's choices, stillhave a chance to appear on teh front pge, depending on who is th editor. No only reflecting the popular sentiment that is influcndc by the pwer relations already.
Josh users relying on measures of what they shoud read. Success for sites like digg. Reflection of the failre of edites to d the montioring and presndting views that are different. THe information gamp that you could argue for and agains the diggs of the wo. parto fthe reason that there is success there is the people foud that the voices are lacking.
Mindy -- five years ago, relied on authority sources to get what you needed to know. The two paragraphs at the end of a story. The fact that the third paragraph is missing. If that reporter is plugged into the network of Iranian bloggers. Online journalism bloggers. Read each other and cite each other. Open to everybody. Everyone who wants to know acan look at their blogs. Journalists could tap into them. Do they, usually don't. These are the blgos in my RSS feed. Web 2.0, online jouranlism folder. Those same networks available to outsiders. The problem we face now in terms of democracy being an infrmed citizen. Don't knw which networks to plug into. Better mast search the better you can find one to pulg into. In Malazysa. West asia, middle east. If you are interested in the middle east, ought be reading blogs from people who are from there. Seems like you could know more.
Global Voice online.org.
Live blog
Question: Wisdom of the crowds. Billions who don't have access to computers or the energe.
Rogers. The progess of media on the internet. every year we discover new technique and its the solution to everything. RSS articles written that would say give up home page is over. RSS rules. Classes full of media students. How many use RSS. We are going through a period that the solution to everythng is social networks, org appraoching to organizing conten. to a great extend, watching the behaovior of early adopters. Look at what they are interested in Digg. Lots of time on their hands. Silicoan Vallye, the 1001st customer, that many that will buy any gadget. o such thing as a mass audience. there is agenral consumer aduience. Less time organizing their news that we do. Peronalized sites. People go in and put in their bithdate, zip coe movei times. Just watn information aggregated for them. basic human desire what is everybody else esssing in my enirmanesm.
Digitla Moaism.
Tyrany of the crwod.
Andrew LIh, making money the ofd fashioned way.
Michael rogers -- internet not been kind to journalist. The entry level job working for a blgo network, five dollars a post. No doubt about it. In a braod sense, the fundamental contrac and the public and those who create content. THas allen apart. the unsplken part, if you create content I will pay you monye for it. I will watch or perent do watch advertising to support it.
a generaton that had to learn piraccy because the record industry or tivo or just ripoff journalism.
How journalists are compensated. Some sort of organization that needs to be done. All those bloggers, there should be some kind of unionization.
Dube -- the first ian observation. Increasing hear journalist so many orgs solicting CJ. Not going to get anything good util we pay people for it. They have talked to peole and asked them, not expecting money. High quality are not expecting to be pad for this. People creating that content. dont see any value. Consumers at the same time. I dont have an answer. Lies in tht eother big problem. Challenges to figure out. What is the business model in the end for all of us in teh world. Until we figure out. How to answer that question.
Cohen: How is google cong to make people rich.
Become a masseuse.
Differnt meida come on board.
Andrew Lih, compliate about he arrangements. Yahoo decided to settle with families of journalists who were identified by Yahoo information. In general, Chinese users too busy enjoying the Internet they have than lamenting the Internet that they don't. Can't turn it back. So much part of the business and personal networks. Hard to blackout completely. In the long run more and more open. as long as the economy chugs along and people continue to get richer, not too many are going to get angry about the censorship.
Mindy
Clarin and El Pais. Pleaseant to scan. I can see what the news of the day is. The NYTimes has gotten very similar. Clarin.com . NYtimes design really clear. Washpo less so. One of the networks redesinged in a way that is really nice. What sites are doing a good job. My biggest interest is not reading. I like graphics and multimedia. I the US the post and th Times. Neck and neck. Washopo has been doinga lot of really good stuff with data. NYTimes with graphics. For multimedia perfor those two. For most of my aduio. kile NPR a lot. Downlad ons of stuff from NPR when I'm on planes.
John Dube.
Someo fthe sites doing pretty interesting stuff. One fo tehones that Michael mentioned is USA today. Latest redesign in March or so. A couple f things allow commets on eveyr sotry. USA today has done more. Everyone who registers on every story to create blogs and photos. Gone a little ruther. Worht taking a close look at . Their design is good for exactly what they are trying to accomplsh. Each site is trying to acocomplish diferent. Promote vieo and be in sync with oniar brnad. A couple of thorher site , the larger oe. Paritally they have a lot f researches. NYTimes stuff on graphics. Stuff on the tosl that they are workig on like the Times Reacher and other products. expect in the developmeth they will e doing other intersting stuff. Washiongtpost has been a leade in online vide. Helped to pioneer a new form of video storytelling. A lot of the vide online is raw vide. The Washington psot is toidng, is creating a different type of stry via vide. A key challenge for organizlation a boradcast company>What works betst on the web, watching tTV ir somehting differnt.
OnBeing vide. HIgh De
Mindy McAdams
Two tracks, do documentary video journalists. Spearately reporters trained in batches, reporter shot vide. use different kinds of camersa. Doing different kinds of stories. Trained to shoot video in the Washingotnp Post and shoot theese four hthings.
Multimedia editors. 100 perent of stories have video. added to it. Prety revolutionary. broadcast sites dont have that. Video int he last 12 to 18 monts. Most sites. when they look at viewer numbers. number for photograllers and slidehsow, way higher than viewer numbers for vide. Putting resoruces into viewdo not getting the video as high as still photographer. Not every story needs vide.
JOSH not every story needs vide. Put images wthere where you need images around.
newmedianewsroom2007c.blogspot.com.
Hard to teach new media, it changes every day.
Text questions.
Josh Cohen -- business product manager for Google News.
Trying to organize the world's news organization. Every language, every story and every media outlet. More perspectives are better. make them available to readers. Not that difeernt from web search. Trying to organize it in a oherent. Click through and go off and go deeper. Cluster stories around storeies, instead of sources.
Organized around the story, top story with close to 1000 stories on it. Voices from other English language from around the globe. As many views as possible.
What do I see in chang ing media landscape. Sepaaration between creating and the distribution of content. from user perspective, get that content from a number of different places and different way.
Derakhshan.
Born and raised in Iran, left for Canda. Sept. 2001 started Persian Blog. BStarted it in Persian but realized if not in enligs doesn't exist.
Former journalist in Iran, writing about digital culture and Internet. Blog is filtered by Iranian governemtn. Kicked out by hosting company because someone didn't like what I wrote about them. He could afford a lawyer and the hosting company has kikeced me out. Filed a defamation against me for $2 million. Sad. This lawsuit could lead me into censoring myself, if I can't win it, I don't know how my life will be afterwards.
Issues about blogs, journalism. coverage of nuclear program. Subtle propaganda going on even in the most liberal publications. The whole web 2.0 is changing jouranlism in a way that is threatening the impartiality and democratic nature of the Internet. Web. 2.0 is created a tyranny of the popular. Affective in influencing news -- like the most popular stories.
Jonathan Dube -- Cyberjournalist.net and head of CBC online news section.
One of the key things that I'm thinking about is how web 2.0 and social media fits in with what we do as journalists. How can we leverage that and deal with it, not run fleeing from it.
A lot of what gets talked about is UGC and citizen journalism. I don't think anyone thinks that citizen journalism is going to be changing. Not the content creation end of social media. Somehting that goes to our role as content creators and distributors. The key trust network for people.
People using networking, most popular lists and etc. to filter through all of the information that is out -- a function that was done by journalists. More value to the audience than just the widsome of the crowd. What is most poupjlar is the most popular features.
Facebook. Not so much to chitchat with people, but more to keep track of interesting things that are out there, and may not have had the time to read. The wisdome of the crowds and hte social impact of network. Get information that is much more relevant to my lives than the front of the NYTImes or the CBC website. These new tools are going to shape teh way people get their information on time.
MacLoo.com
Mindy McAdams
Blog. I started a blog when I came back from a Fullbright in Malaysia. Started a blog to post news an pictures. Got in the habit. After a semester of teaching students and requiring them to write blogs. It's about what I do. I teach students how to be journalist. What I wonder, what am I training them for. I'm training them to be journalists, but surely for my lifetime and for theirs too. What am i training them for. Call to the amateur stick that he is selling everywhere. Whathe is saying people have to be paid for what they do. People who are showing us what is going on in Burma after all the journalists have gone. The BBC guy has gone back to Bankcok. The Burmese are using cell phones and are telling stories and going to great risks to smuggle it out. My students down in Florida, maybe that's not them. Butit's the world that they will be in.
I learn a lot of new tools every year. Every class every year. Four times every year. That is what you have to do, the technology keep chaning. Two or three years ago, not that much online video. Didn't seem to be the point, how to shoot video. Training print journalists, print students hwo to shot video. If they don't know, how will they have a job.
Stay up to date to know what to teach next year.
Andrew Lih just finished a book about Wikipedia.
Had to take off from teaching new media journalism. Rewriting curricula right in the midel e of the semester. in 1994, if you can imagine 1994, this building not as modern as now. DOS windows. Working with Zyrite.
Sittingin the office with Steve Isacs. Talked about three things. New Media was going to fill the knowledge gap -- too new to be in the history books, but too old to be rehashed every day. For me Watergate and Vietnam war, the stories that came out, I couldn't make sense of. Looking up Vietnam War and couldnt find out anything. Hoped the Internet could have the memory hole filled. Filled this knowledge gap, Moving summary of history updated every day.
Credibility of sources, balance in articles. What do they do to research different articles.
The ohter thing that we alked aobut is the daily me newspaper. He atlakead about the cutomizable newspaepr. Fear was that we would read our personal newspaper. Everybody woulhave their narrow cast view of th eowlrd. Web 2.0 revolution. Newspaper and boradcast media, envofrece a common experience for folks.
People are going to gdigg, reddit, facebook. form common bodies of new. Trust networks with friend, fear of the aily me newspaper puttin blinders on peole is not that a problame. Finally, the other myth that came about the dotocm revolution would kill the other fomrs of media. I find that I now listen to more raido. 10 podcasts a day, six weekly. Get more of my news from auio programming than text on teh web. Itunes, 15 podcasts on a single day. Strange on a single day, gcan't reveie this stuff, but I'm ggeting ot ove rht eInternet.
Echo mindy sentiments about citizen jouranlism asia. A counter to a not-so-open-media in those countries.
Michael Rogers, NYTimes futurist.
I'm sort of afuturist with a long past. Got involved in new medi in the 1980s, did the scenario for Ball Blazer, an online game. wrote the story for Ball Blazer. Wrote the technology column for Newsweek. Developed new media products. Still call it new. Permanent non-retirement. Laser disk plus hypercard. Five separate boxes. CD Roms, Compuserve, Prodigy, a half a dozen website. Liked building things, rather than running things. Practical futurist. Couldn't think of another name. Next day, as a futurist, call yourself one. Worked for a number of different media organizations. Futurist in residence on a NYTimes. R&D unit where I work. I work on the 28th floor with about 12 engineers. Our mandate is to look 18 months to 24 months ahead. About, NYTIMEs look beyond that, so that business plans can be made in a larger context. Build things that are too complicated. MObile platforms, sophisticated analytics. Those will be used across the compnay. Build prototypes. As a futurist I put that in context.
I create a context for these. New Media since 1986. 2007 will be seen as a turning point when big media started to rather quickly absorb what is going on in new media. Major reorgs at Time and Newsweek. The ins and outs a lot of power has shifted over to the digital side of the house. NYtimes has blogs and comments. USAToday commenting and digg like approval ont eh home page. Minnesota Public Radio public.
Databases, CNN, MSNBC user generated video. Citizen journalism. Visiting newspaper in flrodaia that has a site that they then print on paper. Hand out for free one a week. All of these things are rpaid uptakes in the major nedia.
The good news. the bad. for all the media and content orgs that I have dealth with. When youfirst, newspaper, magazine, photo archive, pornographer. About 1/10th per customer what you did in your old business.
2000 downloads of Desparate housewiefe. Facing this issue. we are going to be alble to cross this chasm. this 10-1 disjuncture. Thinking the next 10 years about how journalism is supported.
What does the NYTimes website look like in the future. Many NYTimes website. One fo realities, whatever you did 10 to 15 years ago, those days are gone. Wonderful days, but they are gone. the future, we are going to have lots of big engines and little engines. One foor mobile, living room, web browser. Post browser publishing. Get rid of that damn browser. MSFT reader. Adobe solution.
Post browser publication
Sree -- NYTimes active on facebook. Quiz and most-e-mailed. Forced the enginners to read the papers.
Josh on Google News.
With Africa, number of different edition. Wehave 19 different language, and 40 different editions. In Switzland, german and frnech editon. We want to be in as many languages as there are. Compnay wide 40 langugage, covering about 99 percent of the population. Somehting that we are working towars. US edition. English language.
We are a news aggregator, There is ranking that goes into there. IT is work that is never done. Never satisfied.
Africa. Type in and get Sports stries.
Demo using Google to show, came up with spors scores. From a futres perspective. the pursit of perfection can slow you down. Iterate them. We are not going to wait for perfoect. that is an elusive goal.
News archive search. Ghandi before 1930.
Josh -- crawl the content, take feeds in from them. NYTimes has opened up so much of their archirval content. NYTimes goes back to 1920s. We have other publsier that go back 150 years to 200 years. search for a given story. Any sort of search pull up different clustered ates. Clustered dates of time. Big even in that search. A lot is free now Paid content. Show snipets..
Perfer the censorship tot he tyrrany of the poular?
Derakhshan. What is censorship. One that I think that I would approaach it. Sensorhip is controlling reality by creating different version s of it. There are many types of censorhip. Blunt clear filtering is ahppenign in a lot of countries. Started in Cuba, ran and all of tat. Even now Turkey, Pakista, UE for exzmple. Those coutnries are not supposed to be critixcezed that much. so, that is one way of censorhip.
Embeded jouranlistm during Iraqi war, creating different views of reality.
Corporate jouranlistm, we have to ignore some aspects of a story becasue we have to pitch this story, the advertisers, another type of censorship. Limiting to that blunt less sophisticated way is limiting us. For example, the corporate censorhip, someone I know from a well-known weekly magazine in the US was saying that she did somehting on the Iranian Americans who were arrested there. Iranians in arrested in Iraq. Wasn't accepted. Even if journalists want to be impartial there is another layer of power relations.
Subtle or latent propaganda, specifically teh Iranian nuclear news. BBC, Boston Globe, Iranian nationalization of iol in 1953, described in Mossadegh, calling him a dictator. Iran playing wiht fire, wanted to nationalize oild. 50 years later, Boston Globe, published a very similar article about Iran's nuclear program. very personal approach about Ahmedinizad as a dicator.
One of the words that is used is nuclear ambitions. Since when has ambition entered the language of politics when you wnat to be specific. This is the way it works. The picture of the Iranian presiedne as a trheate. Denies the holocaust and want to destroy Israel. Ambitions create a link with that. Never use ambitions about Indian or Brazilian nuclear program. Another specific point, at the end, two paragraphs, the US is accusing Iran of producing nculear weapons and in another paragraph, Iran is denying that.
UN Atomic Agency -- always mising a third party that is watching this, says there is no evidence. No see in any story.
Cohen. Digg censorship.
Derakhshan -- Opinion of a news story that reflects. ever have room in front page of any website. The prevous generation of web applications not dominated by people's choices, stillhave a chance to appear on teh front pge, depending on who is th editor. No only reflecting the popular sentiment that is influcndc by the pwer relations already.
Josh users relying on measures of what they shoud read. Success for sites like digg. Reflection of the failre of edites to d the montioring and presndting views that are different. THe information gamp that you could argue for and agains the diggs of the wo. parto fthe reason that there is success there is the people foud that the voices are lacking.
Mindy -- five years ago, relied on authority sources to get what you needed to know. The two paragraphs at the end of a story. The fact that the third paragraph is missing. If that reporter is plugged into the network of Iranian bloggers. Online journalism bloggers. Read each other and cite each other. Open to everybody. Everyone who wants to know acan look at their blogs. Journalists could tap into them. Do they, usually don't. These are the blgos in my RSS feed. Web 2.0, online jouranlism folder. Those same networks available to outsiders. The problem we face now in terms of democracy being an infrmed citizen. Don't knw which networks to plug into. Better mast search the better you can find one to pulg into. In Malazysa. West asia, middle east. If you are interested in the middle east, ought be reading blogs from people who are from there. Seems like you could know more.
Global Voice online.org.
Live blog
Question: Wisdom of the crowds. Billions who don't have access to computers or the energe.
Rogers. The progess of media on the internet. every year we discover new technique and its the solution to everything. RSS articles written that would say give up home page is over. RSS rules. Classes full of media students. How many use RSS. We are going through a period that the solution to everythng is social networks, org appraoching to organizing conten. to a great extend, watching the behaovior of early adopters. Look at what they are interested in Digg. Lots of time on their hands. Silicoan Vallye, the 1001st customer, that many that will buy any gadget. o such thing as a mass audience. there is agenral consumer aduience. Less time organizing their news that we do. Peronalized sites. People go in and put in their bithdate, zip coe movei times. Just watn information aggregated for them. basic human desire what is everybody else esssing in my enirmanesm.
Digitla Moaism.
Tyrany of the crwod.
Andrew LIh, making money the ofd fashioned way.
Michael rogers -- internet not been kind to journalist. The entry level job working for a blgo network, five dollars a post. No doubt about it. In a braod sense, the fundamental contrac and the public and those who create content. THas allen apart. the unsplken part, if you create content I will pay you monye for it. I will watch or perent do watch advertising to support it.
a generaton that had to learn piraccy because the record industry or tivo or just ripoff journalism.
How journalists are compensated. Some sort of organization that needs to be done. All those bloggers, there should be some kind of unionization.
Dube -- the first ian observation. Increasing hear journalist so many orgs solicting CJ. Not going to get anything good util we pay people for it. They have talked to peole and asked them, not expecting money. High quality are not expecting to be pad for this. People creating that content. dont see any value. Consumers at the same time. I dont have an answer. Lies in tht eother big problem. Challenges to figure out. What is the business model in the end for all of us in teh world. Until we figure out. How to answer that question.
Cohen: How is google cong to make people rich.
Become a masseuse.
Differnt meida come on board.
Andrew Lih, compliate about he arrangements. Yahoo decided to settle with families of journalists who were identified by Yahoo information. In general, Chinese users too busy enjoying the Internet they have than lamenting the Internet that they don't. Can't turn it back. So much part of the business and personal networks. Hard to blackout completely. In the long run more and more open. as long as the economy chugs along and people continue to get richer, not too many are going to get angry about the censorship.
Mindy
Clarin and El Pais. Pleaseant to scan. I can see what the news of the day is. The NYTimes has gotten very similar. Clarin.com . NYtimes design really clear. Washpo less so. One of the networks redesinged in a way that is really nice. What sites are doing a good job. My biggest interest is not reading. I like graphics and multimedia. I the US the post and th Times. Neck and neck. Washopo has been doinga lot of really good stuff with data. NYTimes with graphics. For multimedia perfor those two. For most of my aduio. kile NPR a lot. Downlad ons of stuff from NPR when I'm on planes.
John Dube.
Someo fthe sites doing pretty interesting stuff. One fo tehones that Michael mentioned is USA today. Latest redesign in March or so. A couple f things allow commets on eveyr sotry. USA today has done more. Everyone who registers on every story to create blogs and photos. Gone a little ruther. Worht taking a close look at . Their design is good for exactly what they are trying to accomplsh. Each site is trying to acocomplish diferent. Promote vieo and be in sync with oniar brnad. A couple of thorher site , the larger oe. Paritally they have a lot f researches. NYTimes stuff on graphics. Stuff on the tosl that they are workig on like the Times Reacher and other products. expect in the developmeth they will e doing other intersting stuff. Washiongtpost has been a leade in online vide. Helped to pioneer a new form of video storytelling. A lot of the vide online is raw vide. The Washington psot is toidng, is creating a different type of stry via vide. A key challenge for organizlation a boradcast company>What works betst on the web, watching tTV ir somehting differnt.
OnBeing vide. HIgh De
Mindy McAdams
Two tracks, do documentary video journalists. Spearately reporters trained in batches, reporter shot vide. use different kinds of camersa. Doing different kinds of stories. Trained to shoot video in the Washingotnp Post and shoot theese four hthings.
Multimedia editors. 100 perent of stories have video. added to it. Prety revolutionary. broadcast sites dont have that. Video int he last 12 to 18 monts. Most sites. when they look at viewer numbers. number for photograllers and slidehsow, way higher than viewer numbers for vide. Putting resoruces into viewdo not getting the video as high as still photographer. Not every story needs vide.
JOSH not every story needs vide. Put images wthere where you need images around.
Thursday, October 11, 2007
Why Blog It?
Hello world,
Welcome to the HofstraJConvergence blog, with the mission of creating an online conversation with the journalism community, and certainly within Hofstra University.
Our profession is undergoing transformational change as information technology advances at a dazzling rate -- at least for those of us who notice those things. For today's college students, who grew up with computers, and are always flipping to their Facebook page, it's just the way it is.
I am a journalist and an educator tasked with responsibly helping college students attain an education and the intellectual tools -- to not only participate in, but to help lead thinking on how we should do and teach journalism in an age of rising social networks, bottoms-up empowerment, instant information and high-speed Internet access. And blogs.
Following this are some sections of suggested readings for a required class in journalism tools. They are my suggestions and I hope will attract comment and suggestions as we consider what resources the students should read as they begin exploring these tools.
Each sector has its own URL and comments section. The penultimate post is all the suggestions in one. The collaborative suggestions will be reposted at the top after the considerations are made.
--mk
Welcome to the HofstraJConvergence blog, with the mission of creating an online conversation with the journalism community, and certainly within Hofstra University.
Our profession is undergoing transformational change as information technology advances at a dazzling rate -- at least for those of us who notice those things. For today's college students, who grew up with computers, and are always flipping to their Facebook page, it's just the way it is.
I am a journalist and an educator tasked with responsibly helping college students attain an education and the intellectual tools -- to not only participate in, but to help lead thinking on how we should do and teach journalism in an age of rising social networks, bottoms-up empowerment, instant information and high-speed Internet access. And blogs.
Following this are some sections of suggested readings for a required class in journalism tools. They are my suggestions and I hope will attract comment and suggestions as we consider what resources the students should read as they begin exploring these tools.
Each sector has its own URL and comments section. The penultimate post is all the suggestions in one. The collaborative suggestions will be reposted at the top after the considerations are made.
--mk
Journalism Web Design Guide
Dave Raggett's Getting Started with HTML as posted on the W3.org web, the folks who regulate web standards. Recommended by Robert Niles, editor of Online Journalism Review.
A section from the Knowledge Board website.
The web design section from Journerdism, the blog of Will Sullivan, award-winning Interactive Projects Editor at The Palm Beach Post newspaper.
The Design Desk section, from Poynter.org.
The article, Help Me Redesign the Web, from Roger Black, via MIT's Technology Review magazine (registration required, so very Web 1.0).
A section from the Knowledge Board website.
The web design section from Journerdism, the blog of Will Sullivan, award-winning Interactive Projects Editor at The Palm Beach Post newspaper.
The Design Desk section, from Poynter.org.
The article, Help Me Redesign the Web, from Roger Black, via MIT's Technology Review magazine (registration required, so very Web 1.0).
Recording Audio
A tutorial from Adobe.
A compendium of sites, tutorials from the Association of Independents in Radio.
A compendium of sites, tutorials from the Association of Independents in Radio.
Graphics, Information, and Visuals
Edward Tufte is regarded as one of the top thinker in the field of presenting data and information. A former Knight fellow profiled Tufte in this article in Stanford's alumn magazine. It's a good place to think about what his work introduces into the important conversations we should have on journalism's role in the area of information and graphics.
A primer on graphics and web design, based on Tufte's ideas, from the University of Washington.
A primer on graphics and web design, based on Tufte's ideas, from the University of Washington.
Blogs, Podcasts, and Vidcasts
Decidedly-New Jersey oriented, Manifest Technology provides an overview of blogs, podcasts and vidcasts.
Flash Slideshows and Journalism
Roger Galbraith's Digital Photography Insights profiles the Soundslides program that has had a meteoric rise in use in newspapers' online units. It offers a lot of how-they-do-its that are useful for students to read before they are faced with the challenge of gathering audio, taking pictures and producing the piece.
Mobilecasting
An interview with Tea Vui Huang, creator of "Mobilecast," published on About.com. Gets technical, but that is helpful.
My Suggestions, Together (For Printout)
- Web Page Production and HTML for Journalism
- Dave Raggett's Getting Started with HTML as posted on the W3.org web, the folks who regulate web standards. Recommended by Robert Niles, editor of Online Journalism Review.
- Journalism Web Design Guide
- A section from the Knowledge Board website.
- The web design section from Journerdism, the blog of Will Sullivan, award-winning Interactive Projects Editor at The Palm Beach Post newspaper.
- The Design Desk section, from Poynter.org.
- The article, Help Me Redesign the Web, from Roger Black, via MIT's Technology Review (registration required).
- Photoshop
- Adobe Photoshop CS3 Classroom in a Book ($54.99), via Journalism Education Association.
- All-in-one tutorial on Photoshop Express.
- Digital Photography Ethics Guidelines for Journalism, via DigitalCustom.
- Recording Audio
- A tutorial from Adobe.
- A compendium of sites, tutorials from the Association of Independents in Radio.
- Graphics, Information and Visuals
- Edward Tufte is regarded as the godfather of presenting data and information. A former Knight fellow profiled Tufte in this article in Stanford magazine. It's a good place to start the conversation on information and graphics.
- A primer on graphics and web design, based on Tufte's ideas, from the University of Washington.
- Blogs, Podcasts, and Vidcasts
- Decidedly-New Jersey oriented, Manifest Technology provides an overview of blogs, podcasts and vidcasts.
- Flash Slideshows and Journalism
- Roger Galbraith's Digital Photography Insights profiles the Soundslides program that has had a meteoric rise in newspapers' online units. It offers a lot of how-they-do-its that are useful for students to read before they are faced with the challenge of gathering audio, taking pictures and producing the piece.
- Mobilecasting
- An interview with Tea Vui Huang, creator of "Mobilecast," published on About.com.
Wednesday, April 25, 2007
Convergence Committee, April 25, 2007
Carol Fletcher and Mo Krochmal will share the committee chair duties.
The group will meet again before school ends.
The group will meet again before school ends.
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